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LCS, Part 2:

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There are two, I think, reasons why the LCS costs so much. Let me cover the first one with an analogy.

Say you’re told you’ll need a vehicle for for your new job. A pickup seem to be the best choice. You can put all kinds of stuff in it. You can put on a shell, or a camper, or toolboxes, or even add a specialized body in place of a bed. For now, let’s stick with a generic pickup truck.

The first requirement is that it will be a domestic vehicle. The expectation, you’re told, is that you’ll be buying an economical truck like the Ford Ranger. Then you’re told this truck needs to be able to:

Tow heavy trailers, boats, etc.,

Do highway speeds one day,

Navigate rocky desert terrain the next,

Drive through snow the day after that (with the possibility you’ll have to plow the stuff),

Carry all the things needed by a plumber, an electrician, a mason, a farrier, and a search and rescue team. Oh, and the occasional Cub Scout camping trip.

Still think a Ranger will work?

(and I haven’t even touched on meeting all the DMV requirements, the need to involve your employer’s family, friends, in-laws, mistress, in the acquisition deal, etc.).

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Written by PappyBro

March 29, 2009 at 17:06

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  1. IMHO: Compare and contrast with the Absalon class. It does a much better job of performing the same general task. It just can’t sprint at 50 knots.

    Phil Fraering

    July 29, 2013 at 07:51

    • Also: they actually _built_ a modular weapons system standard, that lets them shoot both conventional weapons and more modern unconventional weapons from their ship. Look at:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StanFlex

      and look at this article:

      http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/absalon-class-littoral-support-ships-lcs-on-steroids/

      And they get the concept the wrong-way-around: the absalon isn’t the LCS on steroids; it was built first.

      I’d argue that a lof of the problems with LCS is they saw the Absalon, said “we want one too” and then proceeded to try to build one with half the size and twice the speed. And as a result they have to spend three times the money to get half the capability because they’re fighting the cube-square law.

      Looking at both of those links… there is a minesweeper/RUV module available for Stanflex, and looking at the inside I don’t think there’s anything that would keep it from being carried by the Absalon.

      So, to reiterate: I think they could have met the vast majority of those requirements if they hadn’t taken the ship that did it and stuck it in a trash compactor in hopes of making it faster.

      Phil Fraering

      July 29, 2013 at 08:01


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